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CONVERSATION WITH… SHEIKH PROF. ABDUL
HADI PALAZZI
By Mara Dresner
Pro-Israel sheikh visits Yale
March 21., 2003 Sheikh Professor Abdul
Hadi Palazzi has achieved international recognition for his
uncompromising pro-American, pro-Israel and pro-Jewish
teachings.
On September 11, 2002, he and Daniele
Capezzone led a pro-American and pro-Israel demonstration outside
the Saudi Arabian controlled Wahhabi mosque of Rome, organized by
the Italian Muslim Association and the Italian Radical Party in
remembrance of Sept. 11 U.S. and Israeli victims of terror attacks.
Palazzi is resident professor of Middle
East Studies at the Research Institute for Anthropological Sciences
in Rome; consultant for Middle East Affairs to R.A.I. (Italian State
TV); and a professional translator from Arabic and English. He
serves as Secretary General of the Italian Muslim Association; as
Muslim co-founder and co-chairman of the Islam-Israel Fellowship and
as Muslim chair of the Jerusalem Embassy Initiative, both of the
Root & Branch Association, Ltd.
He received a Ph.D. in Islamic Studies
by appointment of the former Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Shaykh
Abdul Aziz Ibn Baz; a degree in Islamic Science from the University
of al-Azhar as-Sharif (Cairo, Egypt); and an M.A. from the Faculty
of Philosophy of the University of Rome (Rome, Italy).
In 2001, Israel President Moshe Katsav
honored him for his support of America, Israel and Jews
worldwide.
The Ledger caught up with Palazzi at a
recent speech to community leaders at the Chai Society at Yale
University. His visit to Connecticut was sponsored by the Chai
Society with assistance from the ADL Laurel Vlock Campus Lecture
Series.
Q: What's your assessment of the
potential war in Iraq?
A: This is a critical moment in the
history of the world.
This war can create a new situation in
the region n the United States can really contribute for the first
time to a form of democratic government in an Arab state. This will
change the perception of the role of America even in the Arab
world.
Q: What are some of the differences
between this and the previous conflict with Iraq?
A: The basic difference between this war
and the Gulf War in 1991 is that that war was a war against Saddam
Hussein but not really a war of liberation. …
We are realizing that what was happening
in 1991 was the idea of thinking that democracy works for ourselves
but not for the rest of the world. From a certain point of view,
this is what is changing, to survive it is necessary to expand this
kind of international influence.
The globalization of the economy
movement must have as its counterpoint the globalization of
democracy … We must convince others in the Arab world that democracy
can work for them.
Q: Are there concerns about potential
war?
A: Of course, I see signals that
preoccupy me. The wording of the declaration from President Bush
going to war against Iraq could create conditions for a Palestinian
state.
It's a contradictory point of view. You
cannot defeat terrorism by bowing to terror. If you are not creating
a democratic state, it will not bring peace to the Middle East. It
will create instability in the Middle East.
Q: So, you are opposed to creating a
Palestinian state?
A: What will be the reaction of the
other regimes? The creation was a victory and that victory was
achieved by terror … The message you are sending is there are cases
in which terror works.
It is just moving the problem from one
place to another. We are solving the problem in Afghanistan. [If a
Palestinian state] is created, the role of Hamas will be the same
role as Al Quaeda played in Afghanistan. It would gvie Hamas total
control of that state.
Part of the policy of the totalitarian
regime is to use the existence of Israel as a scapegoat. If Arab
countries want to be allies of the United States, they need to stop
using that kind of propaganda.
It is time for a coalition which wants
to promote democracy in the Arab world. It is not possible to accept
someone as a supporter of democracy unless [they] accept the
existence of Israel.
Q: Has Italy's view on the Middle East
changed?
A: In Italy, we had the situation of
from the extreme left to the extreme right, no one was a supporter
of Israel. Everyone was a supporter of the Palestinian Authority.
Most intellectuals, newspapers, no one spared the occasion to blame
Israel. …
After the siege at the Church of the
Nativity, the public was shocked by the positon of the Catholic
church. Terrorists occupy the church, taking priests as hostages.
What is the Vatican doing? Are they blaming the terrorist occupying
the church? They are blaming the Israeli army surrounding the
church.
If terrorists occupied a church in
[Italy], do you think Italian police wouldn't surround it? Would the
Italian press blame the police?
It was now possible to make a
demonstration in support of Israel. The participation in that
demonstration was huge. That was the starting point of a change in
attitude, even in the media. … It is possible to change public
opinion. I think even it is possible and more important that the
same thing can happen in America.
Q: What would you like to
see?
A: Leaders of the Jewish community in
America should develop relations with friendly Muslim nations, like
Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Why does Israel ignore that support? I'm
glad to say at least the Jewish community in America recognizes that
support.
Q: What is your take on Oslo?
A: Before there was an intifada by
rocks; after, there was an intifada by weapons.
The idea of legitimizing the PLO, of
dealing with Arafat as if he is not the leader of a terrorist state
is a total failure. My position is Arafat must resign. …
We must develop a relation to hear the
voice of those who criticize the Palestinian Authority, the very
people who were silenced by the Oslo agreement. The voices of
opposition in the territiories were silenced, by execution, by all
possible means.
Before, people were not afraid to
criticize the Palestinian Authority; now it is impossible n except
for those in East Jerusalem.
Q: What does the Koran have to say about
Israel and the Jewish people?
A: The 17th chapter of the Koran deals
with the history of the Jewish people.
It starts with the destruction of the
Temple. It says the Temple was built and destroyed twice, then one
of the verses, either verse 103 or 104, says the Jewish people was
assembled in Israel after being liberated from Egypt. Before the end
of the world, they will be reassembled again in the same
way.
When the Zionist movement started, the
governor of Mecca said, "So we are seeing the realization of what is
in the Koran."
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